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I am so over the lack of respect the press shows the Kings. In fairness, some are coming around since the Canadian Press entitled their game story, “Royally Crowned”. That

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I am so over the lack of respect the press shows the Kings. In fairness, some are coming around since the Canadian Press entitled their game story, “Royally Crowned”. That article can be read here:

TSN’s Game Take

The Calgary Sun assumed this season’s trend of disrespecting the Kings, in their post game article when the term “cellar dweller” came up. Read that here:

King-Sized Stinker

Keenan had this to say about his team in this quote from the Sun article
“We didn't play with any level of preparation at the start of the game," Keenan said. "We tried to get it during the game, which is too late. The league is too competitive when we try to do that."
Last time I checked, one of a coach’s primary job duties is getting his troops ready to play… ya think?!! Apparently, Iron Mike delegates that responsibility to his players. Oops. In a coaching grade of the game, I give Crawford an “A” for the day. Despite being home for the first time in 22 days, and despite a statistical showing that first home games after long road trips tend to go poorly, Crawford got his team ready with one of their harder pre-game skates and a win in front of a sell-out appreciative crowd.

In an interesting sub-plot, despite the Kings last place showing, the Maple Leafs have now entered the “Steve Stamkos Sweepstakes” only two points out of last place or the Kings’ new home this year…ouch! Time to ask yourselves, which is more important? Being 1st overall or working towards credibility. That is a debate being waged most of this season.

Los Angeles’ prior propensity was to allow the first goal and play catch-up. With their new found success, or 10-5-1 in their last 16 games, the Kings got out early and scored first with Dallman’s first goal of the year. More than once this season, I lamented Los Angeles’ opponents being far too generous and gifting players their first goal of the year. Eric Johnson and Bobby Ryan come to mind for starters. Saturday, the Flames felt just that generous and made it possible for both Dallman and Purcell to score their first of the year and as to the six game NHL veteran, his first ever…yeah!

Saturday’s lines looked liked this:

Brown – Kopitar – O’Sullivan
Frolov – Armstrong – Boyle
Calder- Handzus – Purcell
Ivanans – Giuliano – Willsie

The third line started the first and last period. In a little discussed piece of trivia, unless the Kings open a period in either a penalty kill or power play situation, Crawford opens each period with whomever he starts the game.

Saturday’s victory gave me far more questions about the opposing coach. When the Flames went on a tear earlier this year, one of the triggers was a line combination Iginla put together, that being: Huselius, Langkow and Iginla. Keenan apparently stopped listening. This year’s biggest Kings’ killer is Langkow who scored eight goals in his prior three Kings’ games. Saturday, he added another in the first period on the very same line which has proved so successful.

Despite history and statistical positives, Keenan was the guy who shook things up breaking up that line and instead reinstating his prior first line of Tanguay, Conroy and Iginla. This mix worked for Conroy who was one of the few Flames who was uniquely motivated since Crawford’s Kings had no place for Conroy. This center only gave four hits, 65% face-off success and one of the +/- positives as an even player despite the fact the Flames fell victim to the surging home team.

Perhaps Keenan was showcasing Tanguay? Either way, the most I noticed that trade bait was when he took exception to Johnson shadowing him which erupted into a mini melee between the two late in the game. I doubt this was what Keenan had in mind as Tanguay’s most memorable moment... Double ouch!

The first period was memorable for Purcell and Dallman’s first. Both teams also played too wide open for my comfort level. The first 20 minutes Saturday could easily have also been named ‘defense optional’... triple ouch!

Starting the second, one might think that Keenan got far more through to his team than Crawford since the Flames started stronger and dominated the first four minutes. The problem is the Kings answered with a short handed goal on their first shot of the period at 4:14 from a two on one between Handzus and O’Sullivan with the latter connecting. That shorty proved to be the game winner.

After the Kings’ fifth goal of the night, my eyes went immediately to the Flames bench. At that point, Kiprusoff had given up 5 goals on 14 shots or a 36% save percentage... yikes! I found myself asking was Kiprusoff’s save % and wins-losses this year because his game is less than his best; or in the alternative, are the Flames’ overall playing worse defensively under Keenan? That ugly debate thankfully is for Calgarians to ponder and not Kings’ fans....yeah!

The most Calgary came back resulted from a power play opportunity in the third. In fairness, the Flames dominated the third out-shooting the Kings 15 to 5. LaBarbera finished what his teammates started with a “W” for the Kings.

Purcell Post-Game:

Purcell described his first NHL goal as follows to the Daily News’ Matthew Kredell:
“It's pretty special. I got a little stint of five games last month and had some opportunities, hit the post. To get a good pass by Calder in the slot tonight and bury it was really nice. It's a little weight lifted off my shoulders and a little less pressure, so it's nice to get that out of the way.''
Full post-game interviews can be read here:

Daily News Post Game Interviews

Derek Armstrong Post-Game:
“It was just we been working hard y’know obviously. The four lines played well tonight. Our D, trying to get pucks to the net. Kiprusoff was such a good goalie and so steady, trying to get pucks in on net. I scored on my son Easton’s birthday and my son, Dawson, his birthday was today, and he wanted a goal for his birthday. That is more pressure than anything coming from your kids.”

“We are trying to grow as a young team. We are not sitting in the place we are supposed to be. Our fans continue to be patient with us. Especially against Calgary, we matched their intensity. We scored more goals than them. We got the luckier bounces tonight. They beat us the last six games. We were trying to get pucks to him (Kiprosoff), trying to create a lot of havoc. A win is a win.”
Family Affair:

The game’s first Star of the Game, Alexander Frolov, could also have been named the first brother considering his brother, Sergei, was in attendance watching his first NHL game. Afterwards, he could be spotted getting his Frolov jersey autographed by the team. *Sweet*

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Saturday also had a Pacific Division tilt between the Ducks and the Stars. The latter came out on top to the delight of the home crowd. The thing is, as much as I loathe the Ducks, I think for this year and this year only, I need to be rooting for all opponents against the Stars since the Kings have their 1st round pick – begrudgingly even if that helps the dreaded Ducks. Anyone want to join me?

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Thank you Carla!

I think I already started with the rooting for other teams. I certainly am not in favor of the Kings tanking a season to get a pick, but it's ok to root for other teams to do well so we are the only ones in the cellar right? So my cheers can now be heard resounding throughout the neighborhood when the Leafs and the Lightning get wins and of course those wins don't come against our Kings team.

As far as Army goes, his kids need to have birthdays more often!

Purcell, Boyle, Sully, Fro and Kopi, had that extra jump in their step from the time the puck dropped. It's just exciting to watch these guys play, no matter what our record is.

The longer other teams keep underestimating whatever name or catch phrase they have given our Kings this week, the more pucks are going to find their way into nets across the league from the Purple and Black Attack. I cherish flying under the radar, as we grab points from those who think it's going to be an easy two points playing against the statistically weakest team in the league.

Maybe we haven't turned the corner yet, but games like this give a glimmer of hope to Kings fans everywhere of what we are going to see in the years to come. Some of these guys are SCARY good right now, can't imagine them 3 to 5 years down the road.
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I am so impressed with the Kings as of late. I knew they had it in them. If only we could get a "do-over" for November and December. I think it is apparent that we don't need Blake - let's send him packing and spend the money elsewhere. Our young guys that we are getting from Manchester are just what the doctor ordered. Although it would take a mathematical miracle to send us into the playoffs - I am enjoying them as tho we are Stanley Cup bound. I would give pretty much anything if we still lived in Cali, but I will continue to watch, enjoy and love L.A. from LA.

Somebody get a nacho camocho for me tonight while enjoying the game from Staples Center. I'll be here in LA. watching from home.


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I just realized that the game is in Phoenix. It starts in exactly one minute for me so gotta go!!!!!

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I am so over the lack of respect the press shows the Kings
definition of "cellar dweller" is "last place"

since LA is last in the NHL it applies whenever ANY reporter writes about the local team losing to Los Angeles.

If the Kings were only last in the Pacific Division or the Western Conference you'd would have a bit of an argument but not much. They are last in the entire league and have been so for damn near the entire season. I suggest you get used to the disrespect from the various NHL media outlets.

With all due respect, it doesn't make any sense to say that you are over something only to futher complain about it. Only indifference would prove your point.


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Last time I checked, one of a coach’s primary job duties is getting his troops ready to play… ya think?!! Apparently, Iron Mike delegates that responsibility to his players. Oops.
I'm hardly a fan of Iron Mike but throughout the history of hockey there has never been a coach that has successfully managed to get his team ready to play every night. Especially against cellar dwellers. Look at Anaheim last season....they had their asses handed to them, at home, by cellar dwellar Philadelpha by a score of 7-4. These things often happen when facing last place teams. Look at Detroit against Chicago and Columbus this year. See a pattern?

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In an interesting sub-plot, despite the Kings last place showing, the Maple Leafs have now entered the “Steve Stamkos Sweepstakes” only two points out of last place or the Kings’ new home this year…ouch!
If the Kings leapfrog the Maple Leafs that will be at least one NHL team that can no longer go to the cellar dweller card. Unfortunately LA already played Toronto this year.


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Perhaps Keenan was showcasing Tanguay? Either way, the most I noticed that trade bait was when he took exception to Johnson shadowing him which erupted into a mini melee between the two late in the game. I doubt this was what Keenan had in mind as Tanguay’s most memorable moment... Double ouch!
Actually, that mini melee occurred between Johnson and Conroy. Then Iginla stepped in. Iginla/Conroy/Tanguay could not look any more different. One of them is black. The other one is old. And Tanguay still has acne all over his face.

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Saturday also had a Pacific Division tilt between the Ducks and the Stars. The latter came out on top to the delight of the home crowd.
The game was played in Anaheim, not Dallas.

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I am not a hockey pro and have only being following it the last several years. I have a question that I hope doesn't make me sound stupid. Why is it that when we play some teams (last night against PHX for example) it appears that they are crawling up our back side everytime we touch the puck? I notice this quite often. BUT when our opponent has the puck, we are extending graciousness and space. Why don't we get up in the grill of the guy with the puck? It appears to me that we very seldom get to the puck first and we don't fight very hard for it. From a new hockey fan, it just appears we play with manners instead of aggression. Can anyone help me?
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I am not a hockey pro and have only being following it the last several years. I have a question that I hope doesn't make me sound stupid. Why is it that when we play some teams (last night against PHX for example) it appears that they are crawling up our back side everytime we touch the puck? I notice this quite often. BUT when our opponent has the puck, we are extending graciousness and space. Why don't we get up in the grill of the guy with the puck? It appears to me that we very seldom get to the puck first and we don't fight very hard for it. From a new hockey fan, it just appears we play with manners instead of aggression. Can anyone help me?
The team is very very soft. There really isn't another way to put it. If you want to see teams that are polar opposites look at Anaheim, St. Louis, Vancouver, Calgary and on a good night Colorado.
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