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Originally Posted by seraphim  Taking the steps to virtualization is NOT cheap, but the costs in the long run are way worth it. For example, imagine having 5 racks instead of 20 in the data center. On top of the energy savings and DC savings, what about the capital savings? You no longer have to depreciate a 100 servers, but rather just 10. These savings might not always translate well on paper, but are no doubt a great way to keep a small staff happy. |
Simple - you probably aren't virtualizing your existing servers on to cheap 2 CPU servers with 2-3 VMs each. You usually do it on 4 CPU minimum. And thats no 486 CPU, that's probably some high end stuff tweaked to the max and packed with fast cache. Last time I checked - top Intel CPU was being sold for the price of couple of low end servers over here. Add the price for a decent 2 fabric SAN, some cool storage in the back... Anyway, I personally leave this (boring) part to sales and/or finance.
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Originally Posted by seraphim Buying a lot of servers is for *******s who can waste money. |
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Originally Posted by seraphim Citrix is something different, but pretty damned cool. I'd look into deploying a Citrix environment if I was attempting to do a VPN/Work-From-Home scenario. |
This is something what I was implying with the virtualization being a buzz word now. I was also against using the term so loosely but for Citrix I can at least understand why did some marketing guy/gal come up with this kind of advertising. You should see one Sun commercial I came across the other day...
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Originally Posted by quix You will also need a SAN. EMC is not as good as some others. I prefer Equallogic. Dell just recently bought them out and their hardware/configuration is second to none in my opinion. |
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Originally Posted by seraphim That's crap. EMC is the global leader in production storage. They have Centera, CLARiiON, Celerra, and Symmetrix flavors all suited for different needs. Best of all, they have innovative management and optimization software that incorporates all of these flavors seamlessly(Email Extender). |
Interestingly, it is always like this, people either love or hate it and nothing in between. Need to get myself to a course or two to see what's going on.